It was the third anniversary team in the league. Sure, his game has holes, and Bucks haters will say their run to the title wasnt the hardest. nice quiz but for me dinkebe motumbo is the strogest blocker but not arguing with anything, 13 of the people on this list were first overall draft picks, and 20 were MVP's. He helped the Sixers make the Finals during his first season in the modern NBA, but lost to Bill Waltons Blazers in six games. I think Kobe is 5th, behind Lebron, MJ, and Kareem, and Wilt in that order. Due to HIV, Magic prematurely retired at 32 in 1991. We update this quiz at the end of every season. When youre ranking the best shooting guards of all time, just make sure you have Wade after MJ and Kobe. He played forever, has a ring, scored 17,000 points despite being on two mostly mediocre teams, led centers in FT% and was the first big man to master the 3-point shot. Tim Duncan, probably the most incredible power forward of all time, takes the number 10 spot on our list. But Malones accolades compare quite favorably. There are no specific criteria for calling one the greatest. AC, Elgin Baylor never won a ring. Tagline says "Can you the" missing a "name". NBA All-Time Points Leaders - National Basketball Association - ESPN NBA History - Points Leaders Leaders: Points | Rebounds | Assists | Steals | Blocks Leaders Awards *Active players are. All other big man bow down to The Captain. He is on track to become at least 10th all time. Zeke not being on the Dream Team is the biggest snub ever, no exaggeration, but he rightfully earned a spot on the NBA75 team. @callofduty45, The original comment here wasn't about Lebron being considered better than Jordan. That's really not an accurate statement at all. LeBron James has called him the pound-for-pound best ever. A 19-time All-Star who 15 times finished in the top 5 of the MVP voting, well spare you from listing out all his accolades because youd be scrolling this fine piece of #contentfor hours. Barkley couldnt be stopped offensively either, beating out Jordan for the 93 MVP and taking his new team the Suns to the Finals where he lost to Jordans Bulls in six. He has only 3 rings, and a mickey mouse tournament win that cannot be regarded as a championship. Theres a reason why theFinals MVP awardis named after him. What a joke! Also see Top 100 Baseball Players Quiz by Quizmaster Rate: Featured Quiz Last updated: December 14, 2021 You have not attempted this quiz yet. Right now he is 11th All-Time in scoring. AD, To me, Kevin Durant is the most skilled offensive player ever to play the game. Dr. J floated through the air as his lanky limbs cut to the rim and his hair blew in the wind. Dwyane Wade has said AI is part of the reason he woreNo. From opening a school in his hometown to building his own media empire, LeBron has consistently done everything weve expected from him and then some. You get that because its Bird and Magic were talking about and they basically saved the NBA in the 80s. The only player in history to come close to matching his winning is Michael Jordan. Or, if you insist on that, give us Alvin Robertson too. 9. In the 2016 NBA Finals, LeBron James consecutive 41 points game and chase-down block in deciding Game 7 helped Cavaliers complete a historic 3-1 comeback against the Warriors. In fact, it was Magic that he moldedhis game after as a youngster, which led to KG being one of the most versatile big men the NBAhas ever seen. He was the gold standard and wholly worthy of being cast as the leagues logo, even if he not so secretly disdains the honor. Top 500 NBA Players of All-Time (2021) There were passionate pleas to weigh unprecedented accomplishments over sustained excellence. The same thing bothered me with counting Schmidt when we typed in Smith on baseball quizzes, but at least there, it's not *not* counting some other Schmidt. Luka Doni Boban Marjanovic Kristaps Porziis Maxi Kleber ADVERTISEMENT Continue quiz 4/10 nba.com/raptors Curry just revolutionized the 3 point shot no one has ever did. On January 26, 2020, 41 years old Kobe Bryant, alongside his daughter Gianna and six family friends, and the pilot died in a helicopter crash. He has better stats. Top Contributed Quizzes in Sports 1 2022 World Cup Stars 2 Name Just One - 10 to 1: Sports 3 NBA Logic Puzzle 2.0 4 Sorting Squares: Sports Teams by League 5 NBA Chain Quiz (Medium Difficulty) 6 Name Just One - 10 to 1: NFL 7 World Cup Champions by Poster 8 Sorting Squares: Sports Teams by League II 9 Gardiens vs Mbapp 10 He is one of the most admired players in the NBA due to his smartness, competitiveness, and ability to perform anything on the floor. The irony of it is that most of his career, LeBron has not been recognized for his scoring ability despite his numbers. He has the full offensive package with no weaknesses. at no point in his entire life has Manu Ginobili been "the best player in the world." Every analyst, player, coach, and fan has their own opinion. I think Kawhi could end up in the Nos. Then I saw you rank Wilt Chamberlain above Shaq and Russell which is correct and I dont care what anybody texts here Let me know if I misspelled any names or duplicated players. He played all five positions in the game and led the Lakers to their first title in nearly a decade. How many players have ever had his combination of wingspan and shooting? Disrespect to the history of the NBA. he was one of the greatest Centers of all time. Although mainly regarded as a scoring machine, Jordan was a great defender too. He won 11 NBA titles in 13 seasons as a player and coach. KObe has more rings and achievements but statistically wise Lebron has better stats. The way every player gets compared to Michael Jordan nowadays, thats how it was with West back in the 60s and 70s. For a guy his size to go out and drop 48 on the road against the heavily-favored Los Angeles Lakers is straight-up unbelievable. do you want him to be first or he should not be first or second. Onto the final 3, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ranks third on our list of best NBA players of all time. :-). think something's wrong with the light blue background, Russel Westbrook is still active, he has no background, Wonder how high KD will be in points after this year just reached 15th, Countries by First Two Letters in 90 Seconds. For Jordans individual career, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2009 and a Dream Team member in 2010. Shouldnt that tell you something? Thediscourse never diesand were here for it. He is absolutely as successful then as he is today. This section of the list includes a lot of legendary big men from NBA history, but Dirk ultimately lands at No. Later, in 2008, he led the USA Redeem Team to the gold medal in Beijing Olympics and another gold in London Olympics. Warriors fans booed then-new owner Joe Lacob on Chris Mullin Night because he gave the team to Steph after trading fan favorite Monta Ellis for Andrew Bogut. But it didnt stop him from averaging 24.3 PPG and 10.0 RPG for his 13 seasons. BODY. AC, Flash! Your wrong there Lebron James he's so overrated if he's top 3 why isn't Black Mamba. Wilt Chamberlain is ranked higher on this list because his numbers are just too ridiculous, but he couldnt beat Bill even with Jerry West and Elgin Baylors help. Having to argue how Stockton, a 2009 inductee into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, is inarguably one of the greatest point guardsgets laborious. Larry Joe Bird (born December 7, 1956) is an American former professional basketball player, coach, and executive in the National Basketball Association (NBA). STOP IT!! Rushmore hill because nobody changed the game like Wilt the Stilt did. Curry doesnt deserve to be on this list aleast toward the top maybe around 60 And add Kyrie Irving. Rodman was a tenacious rebounder for sure. 3 during his career. At the start of next season you will have to swap out Havlicek because Paul Pierce is only 79 points away from him, he will probably move up to at least 11th scoring all-time this year, thats only 600 points away. Praise or pillar the selections as you see fit. Four-time NBA scoring champion. No Jack Sikma. I put a lot of effort in it, Got two just by guessing "Jones" lol. no cap of I feel you on that, best dunk ever, kobe Bryant should for sure be ahead of LeBron for the 3rd all time spot. Had a hard time with the blockers the ones I got happened to be rebounders (bigger names). You can call him a snake, a cupcake, or whatever, but you cant deny the numbers hes consistently producedit earned him a spot on the NBA 75 team. He played at the highest level on both sides of the floor and like Bill Russell before him knew exactly what he had to do to help his team win day in and day out. From the first dribble he took in an NBA game up until now, hes done nothing but live up to the massive hype that was placed on his shoulders coming out of high school in Akron, Ohio. Anthony Bennett Tom Szczerbowski-USA TODAY Sports The 2013 NBA Draft might have the distinction of being the worst in modern history. Shaquille ONeal, Currently Works As A Sports Analyst (Source: AL.com). Once Wade burst onto the scene in 2003 it was almost immediatelyclear that he was special. I'm sorry, is this a 100 Greatest Players in Argentina list? Haven't followed basketball since the Bulls dynasty fell apart after 1998, so I didn't do well on this. In his 20th NBA season, LeBron nailed a 21-foot shot late against the Oklahoma City Thunder by breaking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's record of 38,387 points on February 8, 2023. AD, If you know The Big Fundamentals backstory then you know the idea that he would become one of basketballs greatest power forwards is preposterous. over 4 years laterapparently I still feel the same way. I only see one player listed on four of the five lists-- Olajuwon. I forget Barkley on EVERY NBA quiz that I dothe one time i actually remember to try himhe's not on there. AC, Bostons had more than its fair share of Hall of Famers roll through the old Boston Garden, but nobody was as lethal a scorer or as clutch at the end of games like Larry Legend. AD, Theres really only one thing KawhiLeonardhas left to accomplish in his career. Only one thing the perfectly describes Shaquille ONealis dominant; with his 2.15 m height and 300 lb, his raw strength, speed, explosiveness, and skills dominated the opposition. With his latest title, he finally knocked off Finals MVPoff his checklist after a dominant performance against the Boston Celtics. Thomas was a diabolical general who was able to score whenever he wanted and put his team on his back to will them to victory. Seconded. The arena on Biscayne will always reside in Wade County. But only 1 player appears in all 3. He is also 24th in steals. Is this quiz updated after every season or during the season? 2 scorer in NBA history and averaged 25.0 PPG over his 19 seasons in the league. A member of the NBA 75 team, people forget that he dominated for years as a 66 power forward. If any one can erase the 2 3-peat of Jordan without losing in the finals, then its on.. until such time. Youre telling me somebodys going to average more than 45.8 minutes per game like Wilt did during his 13 seasons in the NBA? Technically, Baylor earned one since he was part of the 1971-72 Lakers squad that won it all, but he only played 9 games that season, retiring well before the playoffs started because of a nagging knee injury at age 37. Jordans brilliance set a standard for future-generation players in the league. While the Diesel collapsed defenses, Steph expands them, taking the 3-point philosophy of Mike DAntoni and turning it up a couple notches. Lonzo Ball didn't work for any of these categories. but that's an absurd level of hyperbole you brought to this discussion with that comment. Thanks. Did the people at ESPN who voted on the list ever watch a basketball game before the year 2000? I'm somewhat surprised far fewer people got Moses Malone than Karl Malone. You should also add Giannis Antetokounmpo. Julius Erving scored 30,026 points and is not on this list. The GOAT, no question. hahaha. Argh. In his 13 years, Bird led Celtics to 3 NBA titles. LeBrons book isnt finished yet and he could add a few more titles along the way, but lets not also ignore everything hes done over his career off the court. He's on the top-75 anniversary list, but not on this top 100? AD, HakeemThe Dream Olajuwons inclusion in this part of the list needs noexplanation. More quiz info >> Start Quiz Comments (119) !, This is a very Good Top 10 Great Job, your Top 5 is on point. :). But decisions had to be made. And hes not all style and flair either. However, theres no denying what he did on the court asthe leader on two of the most hated championship teams in NBA history. not even for one millisecond. they're both deserved to be here. He has the two Defensive Player of the Years, the two Finals MVPs, hes put a franchise on his back en route to an NBA title, he made the NBAs 75thanniversary team, and hes pretty much won his entire career. Of course Michael Jordan is No. Likewise, personal accolades in his resume include 15x All-star, 2x NBA MVP, and 3x Finals MVP. If you think you can make a better list, be my guest. Hes a 7guard. As a rookie, he went to a team that had finished with the 2nd-worst record in the NBA and led them to the best record in the NBA. Learn how your comment data is processed. He credits Bruce Lee for teaching him martial arts discipline and spirituality, helping him play in the NBA for 2 decades with quite a few injuries. Currently highest-paid player in NBA history and not on your list? In his 20th NBA season, the Lakers star made history. 24) sold for $5.8 million, which he wore in the 2008 playoffs. He also played a huge role in the NBA instituting free agency when he brought a lawsuit against the league in 1970 that challenged the legality of the leagues proposed merger with the ABA, the merits of the draft, and the reserve clause that prevented players from pursuing contracts with any team they wished. Cool quiz, vince carter has officially retired plz update. Oscar Robertson is the only obvious one I missed. https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/342321/nba-top-10-league-leaders-of-the-2010s. But its his quiet, dignified manner thats earned him the most praise. Kevin Love and Blake Griffin shouldn't be on here, and even though I am not a fan of Kyrie Irving, I agree that he should be on this list. More quiz info >> Start Quiz Comments (6) That said, I was completely shocked that Larry Bird didn't end up in the top 15 of any category at the end of his career. Detroit won back-to-back championships in the middle of what many call the toughest era of NBA basketballand made Jordan scratch and claw for years before he finally got the Bulls over the hump. ZF, If youre wondering why we have the diminutive point guard who played all 19 seasons of his storied career with the Jazz on this list, I have to seriously question your basketball IQ. As for why ESPN placed so many active guys on the list, keep in mind that it's their nature to be biased in favor of the modern era. They won three successive titles from 2000 to 2002, where Shaq claimed every Finals MVP award. Guess who? There was no way the greatest basketball squad ever assembled could leave off the greatest small forward the game had ever known at that point. Like Kareems skyhook, Bills knack for keeping balls in play after a block is a lost art as players would rather swat it into the stands and flex on their opponent instead of making the right play. And nobody on this list comes close to what Russell,and obvious NBA 75thanniversary team member,has done. tim duncan is definitely better than kobe, This list is in serious need of an update. Vote up the best basketball player ever, and those who follow close behind. And let's be honest, most of the players in the sixties and seventies would be D-league players at best in today's league. I know a few random players from the last 20 years, but not nearly enough. He is on track to become #1 all time. That really shows you how hard it is to rank these guys. The beauty of Shaqs dominance is that youcould know after two dribbles that hewas about to hit you with a dropstep in the post, but you just werent going to stop it even if you knew it was coming. Complex Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. In 2021, Kobe Bryant was inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. La dunk de la mort is my favorite play in basketball history, and I cannot imagine anything will ever top it. AD, The Big Ticket is one of those players where the rings convo holds little to no weight. LosingtwoFinals defeats at the hands of MJ and company certainly didnt help. Similarly, he is the only NBA player selected in the All-NBA and All-Defensive teams for 13 successive years (1997 to 2010). Today's Top Quizzes in Basketball Browse Basketball Top Contributed Quizzes in Sports 1 2 Les quipes de F1 depuis 1990 3 Everyone to play under Kane Williamson's Test captaincy 4 2022 World Cup Stars 5 Most headed Premier League goals 6 NBA Logic Puzzle 2.0 7 Road to Qatar 2022 8 Bird didn't play enough to amass the numbers these guys did, but he outpaced just about everyone in the games he actually played. got 31 yeah, stockton and malone alone gave me 4. Atlanta Hawks Career Leaders. Shaq was dominant at every end of the floor in scoring, rebound, block, a low post, and fast-break over 2 decades of his career. Barkley started J-ing people up and shooting threes, forcing opponents to guard from all over the court and not just on the block. ZO, The Shaq of point guards. Whenever there is a debate about a GOAT, one name is King James. ZF, While we can argue all day and night about the value of the triple-double in todays position-less game, when Oscar Robertson became the first player in NBA history to average a triple-double over a season it was nothing short of monumental. Who cares? The Spurs lucked out, drafted Timmy, and became a quasi-dynasty. Nor were they expected to rip down double-digit boards on a nightly basis. More quiz info >> Start Quiz Comments (13) I would say something to him and he would stare. After, with two 3 peats and 6 Finals MVPs, there is no denying why he is the GOAT. Nobody could.AC, The Admiral. ZO, Call it an overreaction if you foolishly insist, but with all the accolades and the company he now keeps after that epic run through the 2021 NBA Finals, Greek Freak absolutely belongs on thislist. Per game, he posted an incredible 24.8/10/6.3 stat line with 1.7 steals to boot. All-NBA. Onto his 20th season in the NBA, LeBron James has not slowed down since making his debut. Duncan led them to 5 NBA titles and 1,001 wins in the regular season, most by the player with one single team in NBA. LeBron James Is A Four Times NBA Champion (Source: Instagram). Chuck played bigger than he was and was way more athletic than he was perceived. The best of the bunch, though, is "Vinsanity.". AC, You want to talk about underrated? ZF, Crazy that Chuck is now underrated. Feels like he's been around since the 70s. His season with the Raptors catapulted him up the all time ranks, if were being transparent. In 2008, Kobe won his careers first and only MVP award. The 50 Greatest Players in NBA History, also referred to as NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team, were chosen in 1996 to honor the 50th anniversary of the founding of the National Basketball Association (NBA). Fifty players were selected through a vote by a panel of media members, former players and coaches, and current and former general managers. James Corden James Harden Jeremy Corbyn James Bond 2/10 nba.com/warriors Who's this Golden State Warrior? Lets look at who takes the crown of the greatest. Your quiz is broken. 18 active and a whole bunch who just retired? The Big O was a nightmare matchup because he scored in ways few were able to figure out. Despite going to nine NBA Finals with the Lakers, West won only one title in 1972. He earned just about every individual honor a superstar can earn, most especially six MVPs (one more than Russell and Jordan) and hes still the only player in league history to win an MVP despite his team not making the playoffs. 1. He has an insane basketball IQ, the build of a football player, a very good post game, and a good jumper especially for the 90s. I created a quiz for every player who has ever received an MVP vote (over 275 players!). Golden State won their first championship in four decades three years later. Love above Kemp, Ben Wallace, Steve Kerr, Horace Grant, etc? Mike has more rings but that's because the NBA is so much more competitive then it was 25 years ago. Tim Duncan over Kobe Bryant? Duncan just retired. It was probably like watching an alien. interesting that 75 total spots (top 15 in each category) are comprised of only 50 different players. After his flourishing NBA career, Shaq, in 2023, is busy with his podcast, The Big Podcast With Shaq.. If anything, this quiz shows how overrated Larry Bird was. And, oh, yeah, lets not forget he was a member of the greatest team ever assembled: the 1992 Dream Team. The goal is to match your game with a current star in the league. John Stockton is the NBAs leader in assists and steals; hes a 10-time All-Star, made 11 All-NBA teams, was a five-time All-Defensive squad, and obviously earned inclusion on the NBAs 75thanniversary squad, meaning his rsum runs longer than his (questionable) 61 frame. Maybe we have Robinson too low, but when you get to this point, and youre comparing ultra great players to ultra great players, its basicallylike splitting hairs. Just think about how incredible it is that in his first season in the league, Magic started Game 6of the NBA Finals at center and dropped 42 points. A guy this young isnt supposed to have so many accolades on his, , especially after he entered the league as such a project. In 1978, Chamberlian was inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. As a 2.05 m guard, he is ranked third all-time triple-double with 138. Also, you should change the order of players. The description needs to be updated to be accurate. Got #100 first, made me laugh; totally didn't expect him, but I always type Kemp first. Three NBA Championships, 3 League MVP awards, 12 All-Star Game appearances and 10 All-NBA selections followed. And though this isnt all that important, Dirk was able to do it with the same franchise for his entire career. He was a swimmer and didnt start playing basketball until later as a teen. It all started in a YMCA in Springfield, MA for Americans privileged enough to join the club, but basketball games soon began popping up all over the country. 3 left fans in awe. | Go To Top Even despite losing in the second round to the Boston Celtics this season, Giannis became the first NBA player in historywith 200 points, 100 rebounds and 50 assists in a single series. Tim Duncan, Popularly Known As The Fundamentalist (Source: NBA.com). The list is endless, controversial, and versatile, including historical players like Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. Kobe Congratulates LeBron On The Court Together (Source: Pinterest). ZO, Lets get this out the way first:this isnt a reactionary decision to Kobe Bryantspassing. This is why people no longer watch ESPN, besides their political nonsense! 1. Using references from famous and reliable sports channels and websites like ESPN, Complex, Bleacher Report, and Clutch Points, here is our top 10 basketball players list. MVP's or championships I will need to do some research. After four years at Wake Forest, he morphed into a generational talent that every horrible team during the 1996-97 season hoped it would land so he could single-handedly reverse their fortunes. Fast breaks and no-look passing alley-oops took Lakers basketball to the next level. What's he called? And who do you give the nod to betweenthree legendary point guardsChris Paul, Steve Nash, and Jason Kiddwhen theres only room for one? According to CNN, the auction house statement marks it as the most valuable Bryants memorabilia ever sold at an auction. This article was last updated by Vandana Thapa on March 1, 2023. Top 10 All-Time NBA Players By Position #1 Guess the 10 best NBA players by their position according to ESPN Quiz by Tottenham63 Rate: Nominate Last updated: May 29, 2016 You have not attempted this quiz yet. He and Larry Bird literally saved the league in the 80s and while they couldnt have been more different stylistically theres no argument whose influence on the game of basketball was greater. Small update needed when you get a chance. Bennett went No.. This is the Best Top 10 i have seen very Good your Top 5 is on Point. Theres virtually no formula to stop him. Welcome to the sequel of the popular hit game The Best Quiz! 17 because of the way he changed the game. Maybe, just maybe LeBron James surpasses him in another four or five seasons, but its going take a herculean effort on The Kings part to supplant the greatest center ever whose longevity is practically unrivaled. This is a good list overall. They couldnt guard him. O'Neal became an All-Star 15 times and earned the 1999-2000 MVP . Guys. I'll appreciate it. It's ESPNs from 2016, They were doing a list for the 70th anniversary of the NBA if I remember correctly. Duncan grew up in the US Virgin Islands. 1 spot on this list when his career is over. They breath different air than the rest of us and thats ok. Lets not forget LeBronis only 1,326 points away from passing Kareemto become the No. But you can only dominate the competition in front of you and the NBA did its best to reign in The Big Dipper, who rightfully earned a spot on theNBAs 75thanniversarysquad,when opponents couldnt. You think Kawhi Leonard doesnt talk much, Popovich said. Even with all those accomplishments people try to tear him down with advanced statistics like usage rate and efficiency. In my book, thats the single greatest achievement in NBA history and will be hard to top. Desmond Bane Bio: NBA, Net Worth & Awards, Tom Bradys Son, Jack Edward Bio: Family, Football, Summer Job, Who Is Aaron Rodgers Wife? LeBron is a 6'9" freight train of a human being who can play any position and guard all positions on the court. Or Charles Barkley. Later, in 2010 as a Dream Team member, he was seated again in the Hall of Fame. Id love to see some of todays greats playing against Elgin. I have many unique quizzes in my profile you gotta try these hard quizzes. Yeah, injuries cut him down his last few seasons, but from his Rookie of the Year campaign during the 97-98 season through the 2009-10 season, Duncan was good for a double-double. He was always one of the most entertaining players on and off-the-court, leading him to becoming an Emmy Award-winning studio host onInside the NBA. Thanks for accepting Hakeem because my spelling of Olajuwan didn't work and I thought for sure he was on here. Here's a greatest ever quiz without any opinion, based solely on career win-shares: http://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/103225/top-50-nba-players, this quiz is an outrage how is LeBron so damn high he is a bum he is basically the smartest kid on the shortbus. Also surprised about Alvin vs. Oscar Robertson--fewer people got the latter, but he's the one I was aiming for when I typed "Robertson." When you think of LeBron James, youthink of greatness. Bird has 2 final MVPs, was named to 12 NBA All-star, and 9 All-NBA First Team selections. He is probably the best player in the NBA, and his legacy backs the facts. Take Kobe's 2006 lakers team with Kwame Brown starting and replace Kobe with Duncan, I think not only would that team fail to make the playoffs but would be a top 7 worst team in the league. I remember Artis Gilmore. All you really need to know is that Abdul-Jabbar is the greatest center and its not even a debate. That is the best 100 NBA performances quiz. RIP Mamba. he will never pass jordan, even if he gets to 6 rings. How can you have that many current players? The list is dated for sure. As each individual involved in this incredibly difficult and necessary endeavor lobbied for the player they thought deserved proper billing, we quickly realized it was going to be hellacious coming to a consensus. By his father (and ESPN). Hes top 10 in rebounds, blocks, win shares, and defensive win shares. | View Desktop Site. He had to get famous. West legitimately did it all, including leading the league in scoring during the 1969-70 season and assists during his lone championship season. Regardless of whether you consider Baylor a champion or not, know that another immortal on this list thinks Baylor deserves way more props than he receives. Point guards werent supposed to be 65 scoring machines that could get a bucket from anywhere on the court like The Big O could. When Timmy first got here, it was like mental telepathy. Bird retired because of lower back issues, not because he planned to do so.
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